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	<title>Comments on: Run Your Car On Water &#8211; Not EFI Friendly By A Long Shot</title>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://autofix.com.au/blog/run-your-car-on-water-not-efi-friendly-by-a-long-shot/comment-page-1#comment-83907</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 22:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys, all interesting reading, but my focus is on diesel engines. Has anyone out there done any testing on diesels?
Bretto</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys, all interesting reading, but my focus is on diesel engines. Has anyone out there done any testing on diesels?<br />
Bretto</p>
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		<title>By: ezautoshippers</title>
		<link>http://autofix.com.au/blog/run-your-car-on-water-not-efi-friendly-by-a-long-shot/comment-page-1#comment-77286</link>
		<dc:creator>ezautoshippers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is always a &quot;catch&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is always a &#8220;catch&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sishLoannaTus</title>
		<link>http://autofix.com.au/blog/run-your-car-on-water-not-efi-friendly-by-a-long-shot/comment-page-1#comment-71329</link>
		<dc:creator>sishLoannaTus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 02:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrific website,, hope to definitely visit again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific website,, hope to definitely visit again!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi  Guys
I,m Not good on English, so sorry , 
I have question; What if we just feed the engine with
Hydrogen gas, and let the Oxygen go free?
Is these fix the oxy. sensor trouble?
Is these give us better mile/ gal??
Is these make more complicate the 
hydrogen generator?
And many say thermodynamic 1.So it is Not working.
But if we adding something to the water,it is not 
ordinary water any more, Am,I right? and then separated,
with much less energy?
Guys I,m Nobody, I just want to save same on gas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi  Guys<br />
I,m Not good on English, so sorry ,<br />
I have question; What if we just feed the engine with<br />
Hydrogen gas, and let the Oxygen go free?<br />
Is these fix the oxy. sensor trouble?<br />
Is these give us better mile/ gal??<br />
Is these make more complicate the<br />
hydrogen generator?<br />
And many say thermodynamic 1.So it is Not working.<br />
But if we adding something to the water,it is not<br />
ordinary water any more, Am,I right? and then separated,<br />
with much less energy?<br />
Guys I,m Nobody, I just want to save same on gas.</p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Simon,
From what I understand the HHO gas burns more &#039;completely&#039; than good old Unleaded, however there must still be a certain amount of unburnt oxygen left after combustion or we wouldn&#039;t be having these mixture issues.
This issue may be better addressed on the actual Water4Gas website - http://www.water4gas.com/, once I found that our fuel consumption figured had taken a turn for the worse I ceased all research and testing on the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Simon,<br />
From what I understand the HHO gas burns more &#8216;completely&#8217; than good old Unleaded, however there must still be a certain amount of unburnt oxygen left after combustion or we wouldn&#8217;t be having these mixture issues.<br />
This issue may be better addressed on the actual Water4Gas website &#8211; <a href="http://www.water4gas.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.water4gas.com/</a>, once I found that our fuel consumption figured had taken a turn for the worse I ceased all research and testing on the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://autofix.com.au/blog/run-your-car-on-water-not-efi-friendly-by-a-long-shot/comment-page-1#comment-61217</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One question:
Since HHO contains perfect H and O ratio it supposed to burn completely without leaving extra Oxygen or Hydrogen. Why would it affect Oxygen level in the exhaust gas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One question:<br />
Since HHO contains perfect H and O ratio it supposed to burn completely without leaving extra Oxygen or Hydrogen. Why would it affect Oxygen level in the exhaust gas?</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://autofix.com.au/blog/run-your-car-on-water-not-efi-friendly-by-a-long-shot/comment-page-1#comment-42440</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello,

This is a total joke, I have tried this and it does nothing to improve mileage, unless of course you lean your engine to a danger point.  As for leaning with this device installed,  they have NO actual proof that this unit will make it safe for the engine to be leaned.  They just say that it will be safe, and DON&#039;T LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS&quot;  quote from ozzie freedom.  The truth is,  you can lean your engine and get  better results than what they offer, the facts are, you will be destroying your engine.  You will know this when you have a $3000.00 or more engine repair bill, but, at least, you will have that $259.00 that you saved on gas to put towards the repair.  I STRONGLY recommend that you DO NOT do this to your car.

Good Luck,

dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello,</p>
<p>This is a total joke, I have tried this and it does nothing to improve mileage, unless of course you lean your engine to a danger point.  As for leaning with this device installed,  they have NO actual proof that this unit will make it safe for the engine to be leaned.  They just say that it will be safe, and DON&#8217;T LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS&#8221;  quote from ozzie freedom.  The truth is,  you can lean your engine and get  better results than what they offer, the facts are, you will be destroying your engine.  You will know this when you have a $3000.00 or more engine repair bill, but, at least, you will have that $259.00 that you saved on gas to put towards the repair.  I STRONGLY recommend that you DO NOT do this to your car.</p>
<p>Good Luck,</p>
<p>dave</p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Bart,
I have looked at these &#039;extenders&#039; and yes, I think it is a much better idea than modifying the O2 sensor signal electrically but I am still very reserved about reporting on a device that changed air/fuel mixture without any reliable method of measuring the combined HHO/Fuel/Air mixture.
To be honest if I was doing this test for myself and not writing the results up I would use one of those extenders on the O2 sensor. Maybe I will throw caution to the wind and give it a go.
The last thing I want is someone to take what I write as a &#039;promotion&#039; for any of the mixture controlling methods and go ahead and damage their engine. Not good! I&#039;ll see how I feel about it over the next couple of days but if I decide to do it you will get to see the longest disclaimer ever written!
Thanks for stopping by.

Rene,
I am aware of the units from Eagle Research however once again there is no accurate method for testing how lean the HHO/Fuel/Air mixture is running and therefore no way of knowing if there is the potential for engine damage. To my way of thinking it is just too risky.
Thanks for your comment.

Regards
Craig</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Bart,<br />
I have looked at these &#8216;extenders&#8217; and yes, I think it is a much better idea than modifying the O2 sensor signal electrically but I am still very reserved about reporting on a device that changed air/fuel mixture without any reliable method of measuring the combined HHO/Fuel/Air mixture.<br />
To be honest if I was doing this test for myself and not writing the results up I would use one of those extenders on the O2 sensor. Maybe I will throw caution to the wind and give it a go.<br />
The last thing I want is someone to take what I write as a &#8216;promotion&#8217; for any of the mixture controlling methods and go ahead and damage their engine. Not good! I&#8217;ll see how I feel about it over the next couple of days but if I decide to do it you will get to see the longest disclaimer ever written!<br />
Thanks for stopping by.</p>
<p>Rene,<br />
I am aware of the units from Eagle Research however once again there is no accurate method for testing how lean the HHO/Fuel/Air mixture is running and therefore no way of knowing if there is the potential for engine damage. To my way of thinking it is just too risky.<br />
Thanks for your comment.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Craig</p>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 08:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand your reluctance to modify the A/F by modifying an electronic signal.
Without going into long detail as to why this may, and often should, be done there&#039;s an alternative, a mechanical one - the so-called CO2-extenders.
This is a short piece of pipe which retracts the sensor a bit out(away) of the gas stream, making it less sensitive and therefore it better &#039;averages&#039; its signal sent (remember you&#039;ve got a constant stream of HHO on a &#039;randomly revving&#039; engine). They also cause the temperature of the sensor to drop, however this is a small (if at all) difference. Zero changes pertaining to connection or electrics/tronics, you might want to give this a try?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your reluctance to modify the A/F by modifying an electronic signal.<br />
Without going into long detail as to why this may, and often should, be done there&#8217;s an alternative, a mechanical one &#8211; the so-called CO2-extenders.<br />
This is a short piece of pipe which retracts the sensor a bit out(away) of the gas stream, making it less sensitive and therefore it better &#8216;averages&#8217; its signal sent (remember you&#8217;ve got a constant stream of HHO on a &#8216;randomly revving&#8217; engine). They also cause the temperature of the sensor to drop, however this is a small (if at all) difference. Zero changes pertaining to connection or electrics/tronics, you might want to give this a try?</p>
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		<title>By: Rene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>check out eagle-research.com, they have manuals and pre-built EFIE devices that seems to be enough cheap and simple for the rest of us.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>check out eagle-research.com, they have manuals and pre-built EFIE devices that seems to be enough cheap and simple for the rest of us.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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